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Angel are canonically genderless, but maybe this is what they really meant? :)
I read somewhere that the whole "genderless" thing about angels is rubbish. When medieval Christians were asked whether angels are male or female, their response was that angels don't have a gender, they're like the holy spirit, you can't imagine what they look like. But people misinterpreted these words and gave them feminine features, wings, etc. The medieval paintings were just artistic fantasies meant to illustrate the concept of angels for the masses because it's impossible to portray abstract concepts in art. To devout Christians, angels are not human-like beings but rather spiritual entities without physical bodies. But as someone who hasn't attended a religious school, I'm not the one who can give authoritative opinion on this matter, so it's only my own understanding.
Canonically, angels were never genderless. They were male, like the most powerful of the angels (Satan), and like God himself. Angels became genderless or female much later, thanks to poetry and popular culture.
Maybe you're right because if we look at the icons, they all depict angels as males and they all have male names, so at least in the Jewish canon they were seen as males.
I just wanted to bring up that version because I once heard someone say it and found it amusing, that when Christians were asked about the gender of angels, the reply was not that they were genderless but that they didn't have such an attribute as gender.
I just wanted to bring up that version because I once heard someone say it and found it amusing, that when Christians were asked about the gender of angels, the reply was not that they were genderless but that they didn't have such an attribute as gender.
Of course, any religion is just a set of fairy tales invented by our great-grandfathers. So, in my opinion, angels will look exactly as you draw them. But if we talk about the Christian religion, the Old Testament is canon, and it definitely says that angels are male and sometimes they even had sexual relations with mortal women.
Oh my goodness! I wonder if they ever thought that having an all-male Pantheon might result in, well... quite peculiar connections between them? That's pretty wild, isn't it? The idea that angels could be gay... It's surprising how nobody has talked about this before. Honestly, I don't remember a single conversation about angels possibly being gay, even though they don't have a single woman in the sky. Nowadays, they'd just use this whole "genderless" argument to avoid any possibility of romance, but back in the ancient times, people probably saw it differently.
Well, it's like platonic love. Many people now don't even suspect that in reality these are not some spiritual, asexual relationships, but homosexual love relationships between men and teenagers, which also included anal sex.
Patriarchy is a cruel thing in general. Since it largely excludes women from everyday life, men had to entertain themselves within their male society. The ancient Romans even had a proverb that sounds something like: "Women for duty, boys for pleasure."
Patriarchy is a cruel thing in general. Since it largely excludes women from everyday life, men had to entertain themselves within their male society. The ancient Romans even had a proverb that sounds something like: "Women for duty, boys for pleasure."
"I think America and Japan are the next ones to go, all the major historical collapses started with sexual immorality"
I'm not sure. Conservative societies with "traditional moral values" are patriarchal societies. Homosexual male sex in a free modern society (USA, Japan) is sex between men who are attracted to men. Homosexual sex in a patriarchal conservative society is sex between all men (where the stronger ones play an active role), because women are often unavailable. Like in the army or in prison... The second option, I'm sure, is much more immoral. Therefore, comparing ancient Rome and the USA is incorrect.
I'm not sure. Conservative societies with "traditional moral values" are patriarchal societies. Homosexual male sex in a free modern society (USA, Japan) is sex between men who are attracted to men. Homosexual sex in a patriarchal conservative society is sex between all men (where the stronger ones play an active role), because women are often unavailable. Like in the army or in prison... The second option, I'm sure, is much more immoral. Therefore, comparing ancient Rome and the USA is incorrect.
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